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 Why aren't christians voting for other christians for president? |
Ernie Long |
Could it be that christians don't want someone like them to be president?
Could it be that christians have more in common with the world than they do with Christ?
Look at what has happened on this board in recent memory, many have left or at least have stop posting due to the attacks of others or the repetition of the same type of posts. Doesn't seem very Christlike.
Go to Facebook and see what christians are posting. Most of it doesn't look or sound like what a christian should post. Doesn't seem very Christlike.
Could it be the christian in America doesn't resemble the Christian of the Bible as much as we like to think.
Maybe if christians were to follow Christ as much as they follow candidates, the world might take them more serious. |
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3/18/16 11:29 am
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Travis Johnson |
Having a Christian as a President would be a real blessing. But, here is a thought as well;
When I need my lawn cut, I don't hire a Christian lawn guy. I hire someone who can cut my lawn right every time for the best price. If he is a Christian, I am very glad.
When I need an attorney, I don't hire a Christian attorney. I hire someone who is the biggest, baddest, most proficient, effective attorney I can afford. If she is a Christian I am glad.
Being a Christian isn't a detailed enough resume. There has to be more, in my opinion. That's just me.
My conclusion is that I've hired enough people who are Christians that can't cut be on time, finish the job, stay at the agreed upon price, or do what they said they would do.
Character matters. Competency matters as well. |
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3/18/16 2:39 pm
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Travis Johnson wrote: |
When I need an attorney, I don't hire a Christian attorney. I hire someone who is the biggest, baddest, most proficient, effective attorney I can afford. If she is a Christian I am glad. |
Travis, who is this big, bad female attorney you talkin bout?  |
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3/18/16 3:41 pm
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Dave Dorsey |
| Travis Johnson wrote: | | Character matters. Competency matters as well. |
This is why I won't vote for Trump. There are plenty of people claiming that Christians won't vote for Trump because they only want to support a Christian, and for many of them, that's just not true. I agree with what you said, and don't have any ethical or biblical problem voting for someone who is not a Christian. I do have an ethical problem voting for someone who does not have character or integrity. |
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3/18/16 3:56 pm
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| Travis Johnson wrote: | Having a Christian as a President would be a real blessing. But, here is a thought as well;
When I need my lawn cut, I don't hire a Christian lawn guy. I hire someone who can cut my lawn right every time for the best price. If he is a Christian, I am very glad.
When I need an attorney, I don't hire a Christian attorney. I hire someone who is the biggest, baddest, most proficient, effective attorney I can afford. If she is a Christian I am glad.
Being a Christian isn't a detailed enough resume. There has to be more, in my opinion. That's just me.
My conclusion is that I've hired enough people who are Christians that can't cut be on time, finish the job, stay at the agreed upon price, or do what they said they would do.
Character matters. Competency matters as well. |
Thank you, Travis. Well put.
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3/18/16 4:09 pm
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c6thplayer1 |
| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | Travis Johnson wrote: | | Character matters. Competency matters as well. |
This is why I won't vote for Trump. There are plenty of people claiming that Christians won't vote for Trump because they only want to support a Christian, and for many of them, that's just not true. I agree with what you said, and don't have any ethical or biblical problem voting for someone who is not a Christian. I do have an ethical problem voting for someone who does not have character or integrity. |
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3/18/16 4:12 pm
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UncleJD |
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Dave Dorsey wrote: | | Travis Johnson wrote: | | Character matters. Competency matters as well. |
This is why I won't vote for Trump. There are plenty of people claiming that Christians won't vote for Trump because they only want to support a Christian, and for many of them, that's just not true. I agree with what you said, and don't have any ethical or biblical problem voting for someone who is not a Christian. I do have an ethical problem voting for someone who does not have character or integrity. |
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agreed, well said. My brother-in-law is a Christian, no way I would vote for him for President either. This is about the temperament and prior record for me. I'd take Bernie Sanders' faith (or lack thereof) if he were a proven effective conservative and showed a history that supported what he claimed to believe. |
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3/18/16 4:37 pm
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Dave Dorsey |
| Trump also fails on the competency requirement, in my opinion, although the character failure is more substantial. Incompetent people with good character, humility, and sense can surround themselves with others who will help them. |
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3/18/16 4:55 pm
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Cojak |
For some reason we don't think a person is a Christian unless he sees Christ and his laws as we do! SO EVEN IF THEY SAY THEY ARE CHRISTIAN,Shucks we know they ain't!.
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Nature Boy Florida |
| Travis Johnson wrote: | Having a Christian as a President would be a real blessing. But, here is a thought as well;
When I need my lawn cut, I don't hire a Christian lawn guy. I hire someone who can cut my lawn right every time for the best price. If he is a Christian, I am very glad.
When I need an attorney, I don't hire a Christian attorney. I hire someone who is the biggest, baddest, most proficient, effective attorney I can afford. If she is a Christian I am glad.
Being a Christian isn't a detailed enough resume. There has to be more, in my opinion. That's just me.
My conclusion is that I've hired enough people who are Christians that can't cut be on time, finish the job, stay at the agreed upon price, or do what they said they would do.
Character matters. Competency matters as well. |
Right on Travis.
And if the guy that runs the business tells you he is a Christian business to try and get your business - pick someone else.
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3/19/16 6:25 am
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PastorJackson |
amen well said sad but true. | Travis Johnson wrote: | Having a Christian as a President would be a real blessing. But, here is a thought as well;
When I need my lawn cut, I don't hire a Christian lawn guy. I hire someone who can cut my lawn right every time for the best price. If he is a Christian, I am very glad.
When I need an attorney, I don't hire a Christian attorney. I hire someone who is the biggest, baddest, most proficient, effective attorney I can afford. If she is a Christian I am glad.
Being a Christian isn't a detailed enough resume. There has to be more, in my opinion. That's just me.
My conclusion is that I've hired enough people who are Christians that can't cut be on time, finish the job, stay at the agreed upon price, or do what they said they would do.
Character matters. Competency matters as well. |
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3/20/16 10:46 pm
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Cojak |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: |
And if the guy that runs the business tells you he is a Christian business to try and get your business - pick someone else. |
This one hurts! But it is true. I have been very disappointed in several men who used 'Christian' on their business cards, as sub-contractors. Much more could be said on that subject.
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3/21/16 8:42 am
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Ernie Long |
| Travis Johnson wrote: | | Being a Christian isn't a detailed enough resume. |
I believe the way we follow Christ is our resume. Some follow close (disciples), some follow at a distance (rich young ruler), and others follow for convenience (the multitudes).
| Cojak wrote: | | For some reason we don't think a person is a Christian unless he sees Christ and his laws as we do! SO EVEN IF THEY SAY THEY ARE CHRISTIAN,Shucks we know they ain't!. |
At times, sinners can be the Christians greatest judges, because they judge from a view of someone who knows they're not living like they should or could. But, if you claim to be a Christian you better not do the things that they're doing or they will call you out on it.
3 John 11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.(kjv)
As some have already said, we're not voting for a pastor, but a president. I wish that Christians were as passionate about God as they are about who the next president will be. |
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3/22/16 9:36 am
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